'cameroon pet monkey scam'

cameroon pet monkey scam

By Ash at 06/21/08 13:21

re: scam in progress, i just realized yesterday (6/20/08) until i started trying to figure out how much it would cost me to recive the monkeys and i ran across the monkey scam. i really had my hopes up to and wanted to suprise my little girls. theses people really need to be stoped. i'm just glad i seen this add before i put out any money. below is our conversations. in the other postings i ran across simular wording and for this being a person from austin, tx they sure didn't talk like on i thaught they kept repeating themselves when i asked questions.

RE: monkeys From: bertrand hall (bertrandhall29@yahoo.com)

Hello, thanks for the mail and the information you just provided,i will go now to the airport and fill the flight and the transit form of Lola and Molly ok. also i will have to change my names from the passport to your passport ok. i think we can put them on the flight today at 11;45Pm.i will be using the Douala International Airport to transport them so they will arrive on the; Austin-Bergstrom International Airport OK. The flight will be and 8-9Hours flight and also i as soon as they go on the flight i will email you with the flight details like; Flight Departure. Flight arrival Time. Flight Tracking Number. Flight Confirmation Number. Lola and Molly will come along with all their belongings remember Lola and Molly are house and Potty trained and could be left out of their cage. also they will come with a medium size and a Blanket and some Cloths including their feeding menu. please you have to promise me that you will email me with up dates on how they are doing ok!!!!! i will email you as soon as i am done with the airport. i will packed all their needs straight away. remember they airport and air ticket fee is $280. N;B;I tried calling you but it keeps on saying your call its been forwarded to the voice mail. i will call you soon. Bertrand and the Family

sorry, i also wanted to ask how we would go about the transfer. when do i pay for them? and how much? my name: Ashley ? address: 101 ******* ln phone#: ***-***-****

what kind of plane would they be on? the normal one like at austin airport?

Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 09:42:06 -0700 From: bertrandhall29@yahoo.com Subject: RE: monkeys To: bluedesiangel@hotmail.com

hello, thanks for the mail ok,they will come with all their needs including their new cage that i bought during the weekend ok,

actually i work for the Christ Orphanage center in Austin Texas ok, o we are presently in west African countries to help Orphans here and flight against the killer disease here in African H.I.V/A.I.D.S ok so when coming here i brought Lola and molly with me ok,so i realized that they just cant adapt to the climatic condition here and my job just cant permit me to take care of them because we keep traveling from one country to another so presently we are located in Cameroon we have to make a few weeks here that climatic condition here is so hash and tough for them to catch up with so i have to give them for free to any pet lover or pet loving home or Christian home.that i know will be able to give them the love they need. they will come along with all their needs like Blanket,toys and C.D player which will show you all what the like and dislikes. getting a Monkey is just getting a human being being these angels play and act like kids. they are very loving too with kids and other home pets also they are very welcoming to friends and visitors. they are quick leaner's too. just get back to me with the following if you will need them as soon as possible; Names??? Full Contact Address??? Street Address?? Home Address?? Phone Number??? Nearest Airport Closed to your Location?? because as soon as i get the following information and i can be able to put them on the flight to the address you will give me ok. also i will need the address to fill the transit form and make all the transfer certificates of Lola and Molly to your Names. will you want Lola and Molly delivered to your home or you prefer picking her up at the airport?they could be left out of their cage because they are well trained they are a complete example of human beings ok. get back to me with the following. Thanks. Bertrand and the Family.

Ash <@hotmail.com> wrote: hi, thanks for writing back. well even if they are not free the price still isn't bad. so what state are you located in so i can figure out how much it will cost me. and can i please see some pictures? how old are they?

thanks, Ash

Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 04:02:00 -0700 From: bertrandhall29@yahoo.com Subject: Re: monkeys To: bluedesiangel@hotmail.com

hello, thanks for your interest in my lovely capuchin monkeys for adoption.their names are Lola and Molly,they are both vet checked and D.N.A Tested,comes along with a cage and all home needs,how soon will you be ready to get them into your home???? they are very loving both to kids and other home pets. also they will cost you $280 including their transportation fee ok. get to me for more information and pictures. Regards. Bertrand and the Family

Ash <@hotmail.com> wrote: hi, i seen that you have monkeys for free on craigslist but someone flagged you. do you still have them and are they for free and where are you located? please let me know. thanks

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I wrote a lady regarding a "free adoption" for a woman that I thought lived in Austin. But she tried to make me feel bad for her by telling me that she was in Africa because her daughter had a terrible accedent, and that she was there for only that reason.

Then she tried to get me to wire 200 dollars for the shipping, she dragged me into beleving that she was really there so boy I was fooled.

This is almost identical situation but with a yorkie puppy. They can't care for it, etc..

HI YEAH LIKE A STUPID I GOT SCAMED OUT OF $800.00 TO PEOPLE IN CAMEROON YEAH WE NEED TO STOP THIS BUT HOW? THIS STUPID LADY KEEPS CALLING MY HOUSE MORE MONEY WHAT THE HELL!!!!!!!!!!!1

HEY LETS TURN THE TABLES AROUND LETS SCAM THEM AND SEEM,HOW THEY LIKE WANTED! HOUSE KEPPER PREFER CAMEROON LADY GOOD WORKER HOUSE FOR, YOU AND ALL UTILITIES PAID CONTACT PMAY00@YAHOO.COM

I have the same problem... but with parrots!

Hello

thanks for your interest in my pair of African Greys for adoption. They are 18 months old, in perfect feather and loves attention. They eat zupreem pellets and fresh fruit and veggies. They loves human food and will eat any that you give them. I have hand fed them from 4 weeks of age,they are use to being handles and will step up for almost anyone they says Hello, step up, good boy, whines like a dog, rings like the phone, and sounds like someone knocking on the door. They will come with cages and toys .

I work for the Christ Orphanage center at (Austin) Texas but presently we are here in Cameroon to carry out research on the orphans here and to help them fight against H.I.V/A.I.D.S .

These Birds are Called Lola and Molly they are very welcoming and could be left out of their cage.

there are hand raised and potty trained.

i am very ready to ship them back to the U.S.A to any pet lover or pet loving or Christian home.because i just discovered that the climate here is so so bad for these angel and due to my movements up and down so i don't have all the time to spoil them with love.

how soon are you ready for these angels?

they have been trained to speak both English,French and Spanish.these babies come along with all their needs like cage,toys and c.d player including a menu booklet.they will cost you $280 for their transportation ok

these angels are so secretive they keep all home secrets..

as soon as you will be ready for Lola and Molly get back to me with the following information so that i will be able to do the flight registration and fill the flight and transit form ok..

Your Full Names?????

Full Contact Address???

Street address????

Nearest airport Closed To Your Location???

if possible your phone number#??????

as soon you provide me with the following information i will be able to change my names from their passport to your names and fill the flight/transit form.

it will be an 8-9hours flight back to the U.S.A ok.

do get back to me asap lets figured it out..

Waiting.their pictures are below these mail.

Jennifer and the Family

--- On Wed, 9/3/08, miguel wrote:

From:miguel

Subject: RE: Two available african gery parrots for adoption(home.jenny@yahoo.com)

To: home.jenny@yahoo..com

Date: Wednesday, September 3, 2008, 5:51 PM

Sounds cool, I have no problem for the 280dlls but you say transportation???? you are in san diego rigth??? show me the pictures...

Thanks

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Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 10:48:05 -0700

From: home.jenny@yahoo.com

Subject: Re: Two available african gery parrots for adoption(home.jenny@yahoo.com)

To: salinas80mx@msn.com

Hello,

Thanks for the interest you have in my African gery parrots,their names are Lola and Molly,they are vet checked and D.N.A Tested and current on all their shots,also they are very playful both with kids and other house pets and they are very intelligent,they can count from 1-10 and speak both English,French and A Few Words in Spanish,they will cost you just $280 including their transportation fee,get back to me for more information and pictures.

Regards

--- On Wed, 9/3/08,miguelwrote:

From:miguel

Subject: Two available african gery parrots for adoption(home.jenny@yahoo.com)

To: home.jenny@yahoo.com

Date: Wednesday, September 3, 2008, 4:36 PM

Hi, I'm interested, just shoot me your address and best time for visit you!!!! you are here in san diego????

I'm waiting for you answer!!!

Thank you.

F^%$# people!!!!

I recently emailed a guy who was offering an "AKC" yorkie for a low cost.. and after reading these stories I will not be fooled into offering any money. Thank you all for exposing this. Here is the email that I was sent: (the ad offered a female yorkie for $85 from Dallas, & specifically said to email him about why the cost was so low.)

"Hi there

They are 12 weeks of age. perfect health wise and will be

coming along with a vet supervision and a year health

guarantee certificate.My reason giving

dolly and precious up for adoption is due to the fact that

I work for the Christ Orphanage center at (Austin) Texas but presently we are here in Cameroon to carry out research on the orphans here and to help them fight against H.I.V/A.I.D.S, so i came with them to cameroon with the puppies thinking it would be the same condition there in the states and that my wife will be able to care for them.since am soo busy with me courses that i hardly find time for

myself and the babies,but unfortunately i just lost my wife

and so i decided to give dolly and precious out for

adoption cause i know i will all ways thing of her when i

see this puppies,and i do need a kind of family where they

will be given the love and care they deserves and have not

had of recent with me,that is why

my priority is not the asking price but a nice home for

them i will also like to ask you the following

question?

are you a breeder?

are you married?

do you love yorkies?.

They are for free

adoption,what you will need to do is pay 85 euro for each of

the puppies so all you will have to pay is 170 euro if you are

willing to adopt both

puppies as i am willing to complete the flight to

send them back to you, i do not want to border you to pay

the shipping when i can do that, it may delay my puppies

from getting a home. it is 9hours flight to send them back

to the states and they will be micro chipped and travel

with enough food and water, and i will also send them with

all papers so get back to us as soon as you can

thanks"

we have to scam all of you in the u.s.a because you whites are so selfish and you stole our money fro n the begining so we are taking it from you suckers.

ON OCTOBER 31 2008 IWAS ON CRAIGS LIST AND A ADD COME UP SAYING TWO TWIN CAPUCHIN MONKEYS FOR $280, so i e-mailed bertrandkels@yahoo,com he told me he is with a church group from austin t.x he has molly and lola almost the same story i read i talked to to this person for 3 days then i told him i would send him 120 now and the rest when the monkeys got here he agreed .so i sent western union i come home and e-mailed him with all the info .then i was looking on elams.org i found the same photo of molly and lola and the real names are missy and izzy so i called western union and put stop payment and got my money back he gave me info at the start saying his name was talla conrad ntembi country cameroon state douala city akwa and phone #23774292984 or 0023774292984

Here is the whole email conversation that I just got into with another scam out of Cameroon. We were wanting to adopt two capuchin monkeys....sad to say that upon my research, I found the same exact pictures that she sent to me on antoher website for exotic animals. I called the owner of the website that I found and she advised me that the pictures were of her babies and not the person who was trying to sell them to me. It is just so sad.... Now I don't know if I will ever try to adopt one again.

Here is the converstaions....

hello once again,

We will be very much ready to give you any reference you seek to get from us.we never new giving out these babies will bring us such a streess. you make us ponder if you are really interested in these babies. If your heart tells you that this is a fake then we on our own part will hove nothing much to say than stay with our babies.we will not let you have what you do not like. but if you very much deem it necessary that we give you a guarantee, you get back to us and say what you want as a guarantee. we very much think this thing is getting off hands.we can't understand that you can have such thoughts about us. we are a family with kids and will not like to spiol another family's happiness. besides how much did we ask for the babies. Is that any sum we can deside to incriminate our selves and family for?

please do understand our worries and make us see serousness in you. My phone is apt but you said you called and it was not going through. please lets get this thing stright.we will wait you make us know you are still interested and ask us for a gauarantee and we will be opened to you.

hope you get back to us.

regards

--- On Sun, 11/16/08, Tami wrote:

From: Tami

Subject: RE: Gorgeous baby capuchin monkeys for adoption

To: linzysido@yahoo.com

Date: Sunday, November 16, 2008, 1:22 PM

Well....it just seems strange to me that the pictures you sent to me are on other websites and they are in Florida. I do understand what you are saying and not sure what to think. I want for this adoption to be ligit and not a scam but I there are just so many other factors that are pointing in the other direction.

To help clear all of this up.......I would like some references for yourself so that I can make sure you are ligit. If you can provide me with some references, I would like to check. If you could send more picutres....maybe it can help prove that these are your babies. The 3rd picture that you sent to me is actually one of a spider monkey and not a capuchin. I do know the difference and know for sure that that one is a spider monkey and the other one you said was the female is actually a capuchin.

Thanks again and I will be waiting on references.

Tami

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From: Linzy Sido [mailto:linzysido@yahoo.com]

Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 2:14 PM

To: Tami

Subject: RE: Gorgeous baby capuchin monkeys for adoption

Hello madame

We very much do not know how best to exlain this but i believe it has tally with our numerous quest to give this babies out that we seeked for tenders from so many sites to make known our babies. That means must of the pictures we took for them has been used in the sites you labled.

We very much had to give these babies out since their humidity here was not the best and that made us to go extra miles for their evaquation. That we believe is the result of their pictures being on sites that i can't even tell. I will go through the sites you send and see for my self if what you are saying is really true. If that be the case,we may proceed legally.

we will get back to you if we have any more information. But also, keep us infomed if you stomble on any this time.

we wait on your compliance.

regards

--- On Sun, 11/16/08, Tami wrote:

From: Tami

Subject: RE: Gorgeous baby capuchin monkeys for adoption

To: linzysido@yahoo.com

Date: Sunday, November 16, 2008, 12:54 PM

This is an email I sent to you this morning. REad it and let me know. Thanks.

Well....I will call but I am skeptical about calling. I don't like to give any of my information out over the internet or to anyone I don't know. That is why I was doing all of this through email. I hope you could understand?

About the pictures.....I was wanting other pictures because upon my reasearch over the internet......I came across several websites with the same pictures that you have sent to me. They were of other capuchin monkeys up for adoption by other people and those people were not you. I have to watch my back and make sure this is not a scam. I just can't figure out why you became persistant about me calling after I stated that my husband wanted to meet you and the monkeys.

Check out this site and then tell me if the pictures you sent to me are "your" actual capuchins that are up for adoption.

Also....about scanning the pictures. If these are your babies....as I have did with my babies....I have hundreds of pictures that all you ahve to do is attach to an email. I was not asking you to take them right now....but to send more of some that you already have. That is all.

Here is the site...... http://www.primatecare.com/forsale.htm

Are you affilated with this company who sells them? They have all 3 of the pictures that you sent to me. Explain that to me??

Thanks again.....I am only trying to cover myself in the case of a scam. That is all and I would hope you could understand that!

Tami

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From: Linzy Sido [mailto:linzysido@yahoo.com]

Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 1:52 PM

To: Tami

Subject: RE: Gorgeous baby capuchin monkeys for adoption

hello

what website are you talking about . the pics we send are from photo logona lab

we dont know what you are talking about okay

--- On Sun, 11/16/08, Tami wrote:

From: Tami

Subject: RE: Gorgeous baby capuchin monkeys for adoption

To: linzysido@yahoo.com

Date: Sunday, November 16, 2008, 12:47 PM

Can you explain the website??

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From: Linzy Sido [mailto:linzysido@yahoo.com]

Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 1:24 PM

To: Tami

Subject: RE: Gorgeous baby capuchin monkeys for adoption

pls just keep trying, insist maybe is conection problems

--- On Sun, 11/16/08, Tami wrote:

From: Tami

Subject: RE: Gorgeous baby capuchin monkeys for adoption

To: linzysido@yahoo.com

Date: Sunday, November 16, 2008, 12:04 PM

Well...I tried to call the number you gave me and it is not working???

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From: Linzy Sido [mailto:linzysido@yahoo.com]

Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 12:18 PM

To: Tami

Subject: RE: Gorgeous baby capuchin monkeys for adoption

where are you located, because the number is a US number.

--- On Sun, 11/16/08, Tami wrote:

From: Tami

Subject: RE: Gorgeous baby capuchin monkeys for adoption

To: linzysido@yahoo.com

Date: Sunday, November 16, 2008, 11:11 AM

Here is my number 01602584606.

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From: Linzy Sido [mailto:linzysido@yahoo.com]

Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 12:09 PM

To: Tami

Subject: RE: Gorgeous baby capuchin monkeys for adoption

helo

we arrive at a conclusion we will tell you how to do the payment okay.

we still insist you give us your contact number so that we can talk this over

--- On Sun, 11/16/08, Tami wrote:

From: Tami

Subject: RE: Gorgeous baby capuchin monkeys for adoption

To: linzysido@yahoo.com

Date: Sunday, November 16, 2008, 11:02 AM

While waiting for updated pictures from you....I have one more question. About payment?? What arrangements for payment do you accept?

Thanks again for your time.

Tami

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From: Linzy Sido [mailto:linzysido@yahoo.com]

Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 11:04 PM

To: Tami

Subject: RE: Gorgeous baby capuchin monkeys for adoption

hello,

that is great news. we will appreciate that. please we will be very grateful if you give us a call using this number: 00237 7488 5553. we need to talk well in order to arrange the visit.

Regarding the monkeys,we are not selling them. we are placing them on adoption and henceforth,placing a heavy price on them will have a negative impact to our psyche. it will be as if we are selling our own biological children. please also promise us that you will never sell the baby out when you get her.

better still,we will appreciate it if your contact number and home address is given to us.

Regards

--- On Sat, 11/15/08, Tami wrote:

From: Tami

Subject: RE: Gorgeous baby capuchin monkeys for adoption

To: linzysido@yahoo.com

Date: Saturday, November 15, 2008, 9:03 PM

Wow....that is great. Thanks for the information. Is it any way possible that my husband would be able to meet with you to see the monkeys? He flies with the Air Force and he will be in Yaounde on Tuesday for four days with his mission. I just talked with him tonigt and he said that he would be able to meet with you to see and meet the babies before we made our decision. If this is good for you....please let me know a time that would work with your schedule.

Also....out of curiousity....I have been doing lots of research the last couple of days and usually these babies sell for thousands of Euros. Why are you selling your babies for only 278 Euros??

I also need to check with customs at the airport and see what the process is for shipping them here and what regulations I need to follow.

Please let me know if it is possible for my husband and you to meet while he is there. Thanks again for your time.

Tami

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From: Linzy Sido [mailto:linzysido@yahoo.com]

Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 2:07 PM

To: Tami

Subject: RE: Gorgeous baby capuchin monkeys for adoption

hello,

thanks once more for the mail. the 185euros is the adoption fee for each of them. we have just contacted the airpot and they said the shipping fee for one is 93euros.

Brad runs more than Daisy so we just assume he is more ernegetic.however,all of them are active. Brad is 19 weeks old. the entire process is as follows.

adoption fee.........185

shipping fee..........93. all will sum to 388euros.

thanks

--- On Sat, 11/15/08, Tami wrote:

From: Tami

Subject: RE: Gorgeous baby capuchin monkeys for adoption

To: linzysido@yahoo.com

Date: Saturday, November 15, 2008, 11:24 AM

Aww...I love the names and would never change them.

Are the males more energetic than the females?

Ok....so for everything it would cost me 185 Euros?? Is that for the female or male?

Does this include shipping it here?

I would need to know a full price on everything so that I can make sure to tell my husband all of the details. It is solely his decision so I want to make sure he knows everything.

Thanks again and I am looking forward to hearing from you. Thanks.

Tami

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From: Linzy Sido [mailto:linzysido@yahoo.com]

Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 12:16 PM

To: Tami

Subject: RE: Gorgeous baby capuchin monkeys for adoption

hello thanks for your complements.

the first pics with toy is the male, we call him BRAD and the baby with me is the female she is DAISY promise us that you will never change this name .

the adoption precedure is simple you send us full details so that we begin with the change of adoption papers in your name.the baby will cost you 185 euros

to feed this baby is not difficult these are the most food type this baby will always love to eat

fresh fruit like mango,apple and banana.

cooked vegetable like carrots, corn

sweet pototoe, hard boiled eggs

insect like crickets, and grasshoppers.

fresh water every day and at most time.

you dont have to to bother because this, Daisy will be coming with a feeding manual and a DVD which include everything so you will follw the feeding schedule in the manual.

novenber 17 will make Daisy 17 weeks old.

get back asap.

regards to your family.

--- On Fri, 11/14/08, Tami wrote:

From: Tami

Subject: RE: Response to your Ad: Gorgeous baby capuchin monkeys for adoption

To: linzysido@yahoo.com

Date: Friday, November 14, 2008, 9:38 PM

Awww....my heart just melts. Beautiful babies. So which one is the female?? Do they have names already? I will show my daughters and I know they will just fall in love with them. I have raised my two daughters to love animals just as much as I have.

I talked with my husband tonight and he wants to do more research as well. He is on a mission in another country at this time but will return next week. I will then show him the pictures.

So if you can, send me some information about the adoption process. Costs, if any?? We are curious as to how much one of these will cost us. What about food?? What sort of things do they like to eat, is their feeding schedule difficult to follow? I have read a lot already today and it was lots of information to take in and to understand. How old are they??

Thanks again for this information and pictures. They are just precious!!

Tami

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From: Linzy Sido [mailto:linzysido@yahoo.com]

Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 9:43 PM

To: Tami

Subject: RE: Response to your Ad: Gorgeous baby capuchin monkeys for adoption

thanks for the mail.

just from your research on capuchin we believe these monkeys will be highly taken care of .our monkeys will be coming with a hand book to enable those who are interested in monkeys but knows nothing on their care and feeding so you nned to bother much.

since you wnat just one will be ok this monkeys never grow up together .

the climate suitable for these monkeys is a cold moist climate.

just take look at the pics below, hope you will like these babies.

regards.

--- On Fri, 11/14/08, Tami wrote:

From: Tami

Subject: RE: Response to your Ad: Gorgeous baby capuchin monkeys for adoption

To: linzysido@yahoo.com

Date: Friday, November 14, 2008, 6:45 PM

Well.....I have never had a capuchin before but was interested in having one. I am a pet lover of all sorts. I have 3 dogs currently and have had pet squirrels and all sorts of exotic animals growing up.

I do not plan on breeding them. I was just interested in one but if they come as a pair....I would hate to split them up.

I have been doing some research about how to care for them and it seems to be a little difficult but I plan on doing better research before we make a decision. I need to check into the laws about having them on base and in the stores with me. Everyone here in Germany brings their dogs in all the stores and restaurants and I was hoping that they would allow the monkeys as well. I will have to check into that. I live in Germany but only because my husband is military. We will be moving back to the states in a year and would want them to come with us. What climate do they prefer?? I would want to give them the best home that we could but will only take them if I feel we can give them that. I don't want to jeporadize their health or their happiness in any way.

Would you be willing to send me some pictures?? I would love to show my husband and look into their care furthur and then we will make a decision.

Thanks so much for gettin back to me. I really appreciate the information you have send and I look forward to doing more research on them and hopefully giving these babies a great and loving home.

Tami

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From: Linzy Sido [mailto:linzysido@yahoo.com]

Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 6:22 PM

To: ltabtaylor@tks-net.com

Subject: Re: Response to your Ad: Gorgeous baby capuchin monkeys for adoption

hello

thanks for the interest you have in our baby capuchin monkeys.

we got a male and a female available for adoption

as regards your location Germany there is actually no problem shipping to germany all we need to ship to your location is your full details such as full names , nearest airport to your home,

phone number, city and house address as soon as this information is provided we will register this baby under home delivery so that the agency responsible deliver them out your door steps

hope you understand.

before we proceed how do you intend to care and love this monkeys,

are you a breeder?

will you sell them?

will you take both the male and the female.

are you going to show them the love and time they deserve?

we are Canadian by nationality and presently relocated in a strange land that is the french republic of cameroon and in this country we notice that the climate is not suitable for their health couple with our busy nature that we no longer give them the time and love they deserve this is why we decided to look for a home out there that will love and care for this monkeys.

if you can speak english fell free to call our number 00237-7488-5553

get back soonest

regards

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